Oh How Things Change... Tuesday October 10, 2006 Seven months later and JoV is nothing like it was before. As you members know, we merged with Pauci Electi to experience some end game instancing in July and have been doing that for several months now. I think that time is coming to an end as we start to get ready for the expansion coming out. Thankfully the expansion appears to be more geared toward 5/10/25 man instances and no more 40 man. So, a small guild like JoV can actually thrive without needing too much help from the bigger guilds. So, with that in mind, everyone please start spending your DKP with PE without going out of your way to attend raids that doesn't have a chance to immediately benefit you. Start getting ready to bail on PE basically the minute the expansion comes out. They've been pretty good to us as a whole, but since some of us aren't in PE and a couple of us aren't even in AE, I think we're best off going back under our own tag and being independant again.
- Nighthawk Basically what I'm saying is, let's keep the communication going. =)
- Nighthawk Last night was a prime example of what I love and hate about instances. I love the fact that we as a group got together to do something all night and were successful. I hate the fact that it takes so long (3.5-4 hours) and we ended up having no drops for anyone except for 1 person. I'd like to have us be more effective at dungeons so we can continue to do them without them taking so long. Basically we need to flood 'em with the max amount of people and bang these places out. While some of the guys who came over from Burning Legion are fairly to extremely well decked out, most of the Bleeding Hollow guys are not. Apparently in the upcoming 1.10 patch they are going to be upgrading the tier 0 sets. Quoting the Under Development section of the official site : "A new armor set is in the works for those who prefer small-group content! Quest to achieve this upgrade to the current dungeon sets, which includes some epic gear!" While I'm not sure how great or how many "some epics" will be - since many of us have the need to hit those dungeons anyhow we may as well start collecting sets for people whether they need them immediately or not in case they turn out to be significant. So that means there will be a lot of UBRS/LBRS/BRD/Strat/Scholo runs in our future. Instance Listing Since the goal for now is to get better gear, here is a quick listing of the high end instances we currently are able to do and will be doing in the near future. Some of the walkthrough links done by an Alliance guy, but they're pretty detailed so just disregard the quests references. Keep in mind two things. First, the quests in LBRS, Strat and Scholo can not be done in raid - only when doing a 5 man group. Also, DM and ZG do not drop set pieces, but do drop some fine blues (DM) and purples (ZG). Upper Blackrock Spire (UBRS) (15 man max) <map> Lower Blackrock Spire (LBRS) (15 man max) <map> Stratholme (10 man max) <map> Scholomance (10 man max) <map> Blackrock Deeps (10 man max)
Dire Maul (5 man max) AQ is where the Tier 3 set stuff comes from and is split into a 20 man and 40 man area. At the moment those gates aren't open, but that's fine since we're a long ways off before we're ready to go there anyhow. Loot rules Very simple, but I want it to be posted so there's no wondering. If a blue or better item drops - everyone passes. Then we discuss in raid/vent who needs it and then /roll (if needed). Feel free to Greed roll on greens, but please do not do so on blue+ items. MiscI have added a JoV section to the WTFMan Forums as I said I would. You should only be able to access it if you are tagged as a JoV Member, so let me know what your forum name is so I can add you to that usergroup. We have a Guild Bank going where we're saving BOE blues and such (like Righteous Orbs) for guildies to use. If you wish to contribute or get an item, just get ahold of me and we'll figure it out. You don't have to deposit anything to get something out - it's free to anyone who needs it. I will also list enchants that I have available there. Enchants are free of course, but if I don't have the materials you will have to provide those. If you feel like providing mats even if I do have them, that's obviously perfectly fine as well, but not necessary since a couple of guildies (mainly Jeff) disenchant trash items they find and send me the mats for people to get enchants. And finally, I updated the Guild Roster, so if I overlooked you please let me know.
- Nighthawk Vent We are currently using Vent 2.1.1 which has both public and private rooms. You can get the 2.1.1 client here. We're using the older server so we can get more than 8 people online without having to get a subscription service, but that may change in the future. The server is jovvent.ccld.net on port 3784. Chris (Mandated) will have to create a login for you, so send him a /tell to get that done. Members 1> As all of you know, we have moved to Mug'thol and have re-merged with our displaced JoV brothers who went to Burning Legion with Og. Mike, Jeff, Josh, Ryan, Zack and John transferred over to join up again and have all been having a helluva impact on the guild. Wanted to take a moment and say it's great to have them back with us. 2> We've brought onboard a couple of new guys. Mike (Shroomstamp/Lucsiouslarry) is a member from when we first started playing on Bleeding Hollow. He has been playing as Alliance on the Ursin server with DrTwister and the RED group. You may also remember him as Chui in AC. Also a co-worker of mine named Dave (Imabovine) has come onboard. He has played a couple of MMORPGs including SWG and has been playing WoW on another server as an Alliance with his former SWG guild. He has come over to the darkside in style and is quickly working his shaman up. Please welcome them both.
Since a great majority of us are stuck in Blues with a couple of AV epics and maybe some greens tossed in, I think we need to start hitting the high end instances we can manage. Mike (Neverborn) suggests that we 10 man Strat and Scholo since while you can't do the quests in a raid, you can get through them a LOT faster since all we care about is the item drops. Also, UBRS runs leading up to good enough gear to make some stabs at ZG which is where we will start seeing some epic gear drop consistently. You all know I'm not a fan of PVEing more than necessary, but it will get us toward our end goal which is being able to compete with the steamrolling groups in AB/WSG. We probably won't be hitting MC/OL/BWL unless we come up with an alliance with another guild, so this appears to be the route we should go for getting the best gear available to us.
Two of the larger guilds on the server (one each for Horde/Alliance) are giving away some high end gear and leading people through BWL/MC if they help collect the items needed to open the AQ gates. You can read about it here and see what place we're in here. Currently we are in 7th place which is a nice place to be. If we place between 4th-7th we will be able to send 4 people through MC. since they normally disenchant "90-95%" of everything that drops, this is a good chance to get our hands on some great gear. We're pretty solidly in 7th place with 303 stacks of items sent in (via Neverborn), but I would really like it if everyone pulls together and starts really pushing this. Probably the easiest things to collect are cloth and leather (if you're a skinner). You can also do cooking and other such things. Just send complete stacks of items to Neverborn. A complete list of what needs to be collected can be found here and yes, you can turn in items for EITHER faction. Since everyone will be helping we will be determining who goes to MC (if we win, which we better since we're sending them thousands of gold worth of stuff) by a simple random roll in game. Basically, I'll assign every person with a lvl 60 character a number and then do a /random to determine who's going. We're going to send 4 people and so we will be sending 4 different classes to maximize the chances of getting item drops. It would suck to have a cloth item drop and not have any clothies in there. Hell, we may want to send one of each armor wearing class (cloth, leather, mail and warrior). We'll have to determine that as a group. Anyhow, if for example our two (maybe 3 by then) shaman are in the hunt and one gets the random roll win, the others are automatically out of contention. So, that's what's going on with us. I'm going to be starting up a JoV secion on the WTFMan Forums so we can communicate as a group outside of game. So, go register and send me an email with your forum name.
- Nighthawk Basics Alterac Valley (AV) is easily the biggest of the three battlegrounds. The goal is to work your way from graveyard to graveyard toward the enemy's base and kill his general which ends the game. There are several key kills and objectives to be made along the way. All honor and rep bonuses are for all horde in the AV BG at the time the objective is completed. You don't have to be in the raid group who did the objective to get the bonus. Here's a brief rundown of goals :
Where to Turn Stuff In In AV you get random items off of NPC and player corpses. All four of the race items listed have a quest for the first turn-in that gives cash and extra rep. Thereafter it's just 1 AV rep for all Horde in the BG plus 10 Org/UC/Darkspear rep for you. Here are all the items :
Quests Here are the non-item quests that give rep. If anyone in your raid performs the objective and you're nearby, you get credit. :
Brotherly Love - Kill Commander Karl Philips in IW tower. Get this from the Commander in Tower Point. Strategies
- Nighthawk BTW, I suggest right clicking on the link and choosing "Save As..." instead of viewing it in your browser. Having an up to date version of Excel is a must. Give it a shot, lemme know whatcha think.
- Nighthawk Anyhow, that's our status update.
- Nighthawk I have also heard that former JoVs are going to be going into WoW with Og under the Og tag. That surely is fine, but you will note the "former JoVs" in that sentence. So, the long story being made short is this : JoV is where I am. You guys wanting to split and go into #gnome or Og or wherever instead of sticking together as a guild is surely something I won't stop you from doing. However, do know that JoV and I are inseparable and if you split from me you split from JoV. As of right now, the guild roster reads as : Me (Nighthawk), Joe, Dave (Cthulhu), and Jason (Pocketsize). I can think of 3 people who I would immediately add to that list if they so desired (I just don't know what they want to do), but anyone else that considers themselves a JoV member is incorrect in doing so and you will need to speak to me to resolve that. FYI, I do plan on playing in WoW (server to be determined within the next couple of days) and I do plan on running this guild there. That being said, invitations to the upcoming gathering remain open to you former JoV guys since I do plan on inviting several people who are not guild but are still friends of mine (Bo, for example). If the above news makes you want to not come, then don't come and I will completely understand. If you need to get ahold of me, 80% of you have my AIM/ICQ info and 100% have my email address. I will also be coming to IRC in a channel for the ammended guild which will be announced later. So, if you need to cotact me in regards to what I posted or anything else, you know how to.
- Nighthawk Hope to see you guys then.
- Nighthawk In the meantime, I have left IPY as I'm sure you saw on the frontpage of wtfman.com, so I have a lot more free time on my hands. I've started playing Planetside again pretty diligently. I'm again on Emerald except now I'm in NC just because TR really aggrivated the hell out of me and I wanted to try something new. My ig char name is NighthawkJoV. Couple of things to note : 1> There is some sort of 30 day trial thing going on now that is valid until July 27th. Check out http://planetside.station.sony.com/ for details if you happen to want to give it a shot. 2> I have added a couple of links to the lefthand menu that I think will help out new players and clear up some exp questions even for veterans (I even learned something about base caps). So, if you're gonna play, check out those links. Hit me up with a tell in game or an email if you end up playing there. Hope to see you in game.
- Nighthawk Go read Trai interviews KewtSquirrel on Warcry.com.
- Nighthawk Couple of tower suggestions :
I'm currently working on a smith for the guild and I think Bob is working on a tailor. So, all ingot/hides/gold donations comes to one of us. I guess that's about it for now. Let's get rolling so we can start pking.
- Nighthawk Anyhow, about 10 of us are on the In Por Yelm RunUO server including such AWOL members as Dr. Twister, Brules, and several others that quit the former common game (AC) long ago. Nice to have a good group going and be playing a game with more than just 1 or 2 friends. Now, onto my first suggestion. Most people's main character is going to be a Tank Mage (magery/medi/eval/resist/wrestling/tactics/melee), so my suggestion is starting out with 50 Magery and Resist. I'm personally funding all members starting cash, runebook and full spellbook. I suggest using that to train up your 5 other skills at NPCs as well as Healing and Anatomy. You'll drop the last two later, but for now they will help with macroing since you'll be casting on yourself a lot and bandaids is cheaper than healing regs. Anyhow, more to come later.
- Nighthawk Also our attempt to have "raid nights" in AC on Sundays and Wednesdays is flopping pretty badly. I think of the 5 nights that have passed that are designated raid nights, we've raided for like 4 hours (on 2 of the nights). So, either we need to alter the nights, change the times, or something to get people involved that still play AC. Either that or just give up and cancel our accounts. Basically, its up to you guys. The patch yesterday gave a lot more power to the melees. Mages are still top dog, but melees now have a better chance in a 1on1 thanks to the GSx gems for more al and major wards. Add that to the aegis shield and you have fair odds of wailing on a mage. GSC with 4 ward gems in it is surely something you melees should have as a goal.
- Nighthawk Thanks Xevy.
- Nighthawk
Major armor tinkering The tinkerer is Gharu with melee defense. Items cannot be sleeves or something he holds in his hands (wpn/shield) since he holds his focus stone.
- Nighthawk If you're looking for the old UO JoV page from way way way back when, its here. If you want to see my reply to the CG magazine article, check the front wtfman.com page.
- Nighthawk New this patch are a couple of worthy quests. Singularity Caul Recall scroll and the long awaited Attribute Redistribution. If you need portals to the nearest drop spots to both the spec/un-spec temples to do the Attribute Redistribution, ask NH in IRC.
- Nighthawk
Melee - My sword guy is pretty smooth. Has a major str item which gets him to 325 buffed str. You'd think I'd hurt people, right? Well, you'd think wrong. As nice as tinkered weapons are, tinkered armor is so much better its not funny. Not to mention that god help me if I actually do enough damage to someone that they actually get to half health, all they have to do is jump and spin and I'm suddenly a radar behind them. The jump spin exploit makes melees utterly useless. Having to be right in someone's face? I can live with that. It automatically makes you the immediate target for that person and most likely everyone in his fellow. While you're attacking, you're utterly defenseless. But, as I said, I can handle that - what I can't handle is the fact that the spacebar completely counters the character's ability to kill someone.Anyhow, I may or may not come back to AC as far as playing goes, but for now I'm just going to continue making rl$ in it and move onto another game for my pvp needs. I'll keep my ears to the ground and see if Turbine actually finds a moment to get their collective heads out of their asses and fix the pvp aspect of AC1.
- Nighthawk
A long standing rule that I myself have had but never posted - no third time in. What that basically means is that if someone has been in the guild before and left twice, they are not welcome back in a third time without a UNANIMOUS VOTE from the guild. No one who's been booted from JoV may rejoin... ever. I reserve the right to pull out my GM veto card, but as you know I normally go with the will of the guild.
- Nighthawk I have also arranged for a Meginjarder server to be setup for us (thanks to Hypnoz). Our config file is http://mj.wtfman.com/Meginjarder.xml, so feel free to tinker around with it. Personally, I think that its not gonna do us much good since we're a VERY small guild and we all use irc. The plugin seems to be more geared toward guilds that can't keep track of each other to announce events, arrange fellowships, etc. But, play with it if you like.
- Nighthawk Also added links to Exception plugin. It puts healthbars/names under people so you can tell whats going on easier. Frankly, its something that should be in game, but leave it to Turbine to only allow us to see our target's health. Dunno how well this will perform in large monster/people areas, but its easy enough to toggle on and off on the fly.
- Nighthawk A couple of us have also started using a plugin called PK Hunter. It tracks kill messages witnessed by the person using the plugin. As you can tell by Captain Dasha (Aztek), Mettle (myself) and Death Midget (Ainvar) on the Darktide Top 100 list, you can tell we're doing fine. Having people 40-50 levels above me sending me /tells asking for duels and not realize how funny that is provides for endless laughter. Anyhow, as you can see the Decal plugin area has the PK Hunter link as well as the ImpFilter site since they started updating that separately. On a final note, Og has now gotten their mansion that we purchased for them, so the surprise has been sprung. Congrats to Og and thanks to the JoV members that spent the long hours hunting down the obsceure items to make it happen. |