Balancing - Front Page Post

[TooL]

He nailed it right on the head. A class system can never be balanced. Same goes for Darkfall's unlimited skill system. You need a ton of skills to chose from and only X amount of points to spend in them (like UO, 700) to do it right. To many people out there want that quick fix and to many companies want that quick dollar for this to ever happen again. To many WoW newbies feeding shit to developers as well. We are a minority.

[Nighthawk]

Originally Posted by TooL

To many WoW newbies feeding shit to developers as well. We are a minority.

Spot on.

[Nighthawk]

Originally Posted by Nighthawk

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[Genocide]

I guess I'm bias but thats really why I'm enjoying IPY2 the implementing of Paladins (to counter PK) and detectives (counter PK and Thieves) was a great thing to add. You still see PK's but they are always in groups now. I never see a solo PK especially with this new system in place. I know their system is far from perfect but at least they are all trying to find some sort of "balance" that wont scare new players away as well as not running the PK's off.

[Nighthawk]

Originally Posted by Genocide

I never see a solo PK especially with this new system in place.

Sounds awful. During the glory days of UO my normal PKing was solo or duo. Group PKing was only for special occasions since really it gave the average player (that was alone) no damn chance. That's pretty boring.

That was one thing that made me sick about IPY admining was that I got to see how far the "pks" had fallen from what the term used to mean back when only the most sturdy of individuals could pull it off. Being a PK to me isn't about running around with 10 people all on ventrillo, picking off solo players who have no chance against 3 people let alone 10 and fleeing for dear life at the first sign of resistance.

Then again, I wasn't just a pk, I was a pvper. I didn't need a group to be able to kill a single target that fights back.

[Genocide]

Originally Posted by Nighthawk

Being a PK to me isn't about running around with 10 people all on ventrillo, picking off solo players who have no chance against 3 people let alone 10 and fleeing for dear life at the first sign of resistance.

You couldn't be more right on that. Some guy posted a video of 3-5 people just going into dungeons and slaughtering people. I didnt know what griefing was until I started playing free shards. I'm just a big supporter of this Paladin system they have in place to balance out the PK's. Anyway, again ur right. I would like to see some legitimate PK's that run solo and are badass that I actual respect and run in fear of rather then sighing and wait for the gank to come.

[Rabid]

Originally Posted by Nighthawk

I'm the only remaining person who has access to the server to post anything. Obviously, without any hesitation at all I would gladly give said access back to Grey or Ron (and probably Joe), but everyone else that has ever posted is long gone.




Doubtful. That guy sent me a one-off article that I thought was at least good enough to share. As far as bringing other people on to post, it probably won't happen since I've tried that several times before and it's never worked out.

I think most of the WTFMAN audience of fan followers would rather see you or the other aforementioned real McCoy's to the site and crew post if given the choice.

It's difficult to post when there isn't shit to really post about though in the first place normally. I think if you tried to get someone else in on the action it would ideally need to be some people of similar fame and respect ideally with UO roots. Posts from Covetous Crew members or The Mercs for example would qualify as shit I wouldn't mind seeing and reading.

Fuck it even Shadowclan I can respect the fact that they cleverly found a wait to fuck up some unsuspecting newbies posing as NPC spawns. Some of those stories might even be good. If the opportunity to do what Shadowclan did acting as player run AI essentially for mobs across the board for NPC mobs without the players immediately being aware of it I'd totally be on board.

I'd actually like to see a player run shard where they made the timer on polymorph permanent somehow and like incongnito was used to like remove the timer duration and turn back into a human. That would make shit instantly more interesting from my standpoint hello new world order of Shadowclan.

[Rabid]

Originally Posted by Nighthawk

Sounds awful. During the glory days of UO my normal PKing was solo or duo. Group PKing was only for special occasions since really it gave the average player (that was alone) no damn chance. That's pretty boring.

That was one thing that made me sick about IPY admining was that I got to see how far the "pks" had fallen from what the term used to mean back when only the most sturdy of individuals could pull it off. Being a PK to me isn't about running around with 10 people all on ventrillo, picking off solo players who have no chance against 3 people let alone 10 and fleeing for dear life at the first sign of resistance.

Then again, I wasn't just a pk, I was a pvper. I didn't need a group to be able to kill a single target that fights back.

The most glaring issue is archery is fucked in two ways on private servers.

The first is it's actually possible to quite easily just outrun a heavy crossbow with the current run speed boost on more private servers along with the speed up pace of the game itself due to modern PC hardware which believe it or not and go figure doesn't run as slow as it did on a fucking old Intel Pentium 266 client and hell Pentium 400 servers ouch.....yeah shit's change.

The other is of course the more obvious and some what more important archery patch change itself along the way which private servers never bothered to revert back to it's proper ass whoop on the run and shit's never been the same since.

Topic 2 Stealing/Hiding (hi Stealth your gay go away sneak thief!)

Stealing is gay in several ways first is fucking sneak thief as Skyrim would call them.
Well there is the thieves guild requirement for starters gay point number one.

Then there is dirty hiding nerf never reverted to proper ass kicking purple potion tossing fashion that stealth just doesn't fucking match up to in comparison lets call that fag point number two.

Which brings us to the 3rd and final queer point town stealing changes if you die the items stolen are returned magically up through your anal passage into the players backpack because god forbid someone you have to loot the corpse before some other asshole pro trammal policy strictly states that can't and shall not happen.

I lied of course because after all what kind of dirty rotten scoundrel be if I didn't there is a fourth and final homo point related to the stealing topic without touching on the daunting enough UOE related aspects and how fucked without it that the skill in comparative terms at least on the last major private server I tried players could use reagents inside locked boxes for casting because stealing really needed that extra little insult to injury apparently.

I don't recall that shit on OSI what I recall is players have to fucking split up their valuable stacks of shit into a big mass of multiple fucking piles of shit to avoid thieves from coming along and saying hey bitch give me all your black pearl and while your at it some fucking rum and pirate hat and stay put while my buddy paralyzes you in place so I can steal all of your shit from you to ensure you have a nice day.

Which was perfectly balanced because the thief had to deal with everyone attacking him red or blue they both fucking hated you and if you were any good at successfully pissing them off instantly recognized you and wanted you dead, but were probably torn between trying to kill or trying finish off the less fortunate victim of your crimes.

Then there was the other balancing act of hey look it's a jack in the box let's play with it oh shit turns somebody set up us the bomb motherfucker tough break or at least that one I broke, but how many more did this asshole have available I choose what's behind door #3 Bob oh look another bomb, but I lived with a few HP to spare and a bandage in hand tabs and hides.