So Darkfall is Out...

[cr0ss]

If you didn't have the pleasure of going through the fiasco that was pre-ordering, or the wonderful launch with servers down 75% of the time, be thankful.

Although it had a rough start, Darkfall is a pretty fuckin' sweet game. Within the first 30 minutes of my play time I got flagged as a criminal and pk'd. Good shit. After a few hours and a lot of swearing, I got used to the UI and started to wreck shit. I also found out all the big PK guilds are playing. First I noticed was LoD, though I believe I saw Blood/KoC as well as the Mercs & IMAGE. I had the pleasure of killing some werewolf looking mother fuckers in IMAGE, before getting plowed by the rest of their guys of course.

The graphics are decent. Models not so much, but environment graphics are pretty sweet. Watching shadows move along a cliff against the sunset in the distance... then those shadows coming to kill you shortly after, is a pretty awesome thing.

Things I have learned over the course of the last day or two I've been playing:

- This is not a solo game. It is for guild versus guild pvp nearly exclusively.
- Find remote farming spots, you never know when you're going to get jumped by a random.
- Be a dick. It's the only way to get what you want.

I'm looking forward to playing this game as it has huge potential... I just hope that in the next few months they go in the right direction. Learn from others' mistakes!

If you have any questions, feel free! I'm sure myself or anyone else playing can answer them.

[Macsen]

Hey cr0ss,

What race are you playing?

Unfortunately I was not one of the lucky people that pre-ordered so I am still waiting for you guys to finish beta testing the game for the rest of us.

[Judas Deceit]

Originally Posted by cr0ss

If you didn't have the pleasure of going through the fiasco that was pre-ordering, or the wonderful launch with servers down 75% of the time, be thankful.

Although it had a rough start, Darkfall is a pretty fuckin' sweet game. Within the first 30 minutes of my play time I got flagged as a criminal and pk'd. Good shit. After a few hours and a lot of swearing, I got used to the UI and started to wreck shit. I also found out all the big PK guilds are playing. First I noticed was LoD, though I believe I saw Blood/KoC as well as the Mercs & IMAGE. I had the pleasure of killing some werewolf looking mother fuckers in IMAGE, before getting plowed by the rest of their guys of course.

The graphics are decent. Models not so much, but environment graphics are pretty sweet. Watching shadows move along a cliff against the sunset in the distance... then those shadows coming to kill you shortly after, is a pretty awesome thing.

Things I have learned over the course of the last day or two I've been playing:

- This is not a solo game. It is for guild versus guild pvp nearly exclusively.
- Find remote farming spots, you never know when you're going to get jumped by a random.
- Be a dick. It's the only way to get what you want.

I'm looking forward to playing this game as it has huge potential... I just hope that in the next few months they go in the right direction. Learn from others' mistakes!

If you have any questions, feel free! I'm sure myself or anyone else playing can answer them.

On the other hand I find the game to be completely unacceptable and dog shit through and through.
I beta'd only for four days outta 12 I could and this is what I think.
It's ridiculous that you are supporting a pay for beta client.
The animation and models is god awful, I honestly believe that they had their main artist do the animations as well as the models as this was a cheaper a route for them.
The mobs stood around on server opening and allowed gold farming to ensue..
Player location is handled client side and there are already reports of players with a shitty visual basic GUI able to put in hexadecimal coords and zoom around the map.
There are a few guilds already with boats and cities.
This game is 10% UO and 90% Shadowfail..er bane.
Soloing is as cr0ss stated a purely moot point and should not be considered.
Good luck being a pk without a guild of pks.
It is not a pretty game by no means and is barely a step above Daikatana.
Not anticipating huge demand for the game at least based on the number of registered forum users is fucking retarded, how many mmo's do you have to watch go through this shit in order to get it somewhat right?
No thieving yay.
Women are not going to be playing this game.
The main page received its first update by removing the beta signup tab in months.
This game is AoC launch times 3 in regards of fail.
Pass nothing to see here folks... guess I will wait for mortal online.

[cr0ss]

I find it funny you're so disappointed.

I didn't expect much, but so far it's a great game for some PvP with a little bit of notoriety.

I am playing a Mirdain, because I wanted to be an archer. I heard they start with the most dexterity (25.0) so I figured that'll help a bit. Who knows.

Finally hit 50.0 lesser magic today, so I can now access the spell Mana to Stamina, since Stamina is so damn important in this game.

I'll post some more info about PvP and other shit soon. I plan on hitching up with a guild sometime soon as well, so I can get some group PvP and city access to see how that side of things does. Should be interesting with friendly fire and all.

[TheShoe]

I think I might enjoy it, but would not be willing to dedicate much time to it.

[Beer]

That's more or less the issue I'm having.

Played the beta, enjoyed it... but I've got so many other things going on, along with so many projects I -need- to start on, I can't even begin to dedicate any real time to a game that requires a lot of time dedication.

It's a fun game. It's having a hard time starting out, lots of errors and bugs... economy already took a plunge... but if anyone recalls.. this is almost exactly how UO started. And it turned out to be a pretty win game.

[Ganthor]

Originally Posted by Judas Deceit

Women are not going to be playing this game.

Lol? What does that matter?

I am a little curious though how much different the retail is compared to the beta client. I'm sure it's pretty rough, nobody launches a good MMO anymore because they companies producing the games always rush them out.

I am about 100% sure I'll never try it out though if you say that soloing is completely impossible since that was one of my favorite things about AC.

I guess I'll be happy with my avoiding of the garbage that is WoW pvp and be excited for Ulduar to be released!

[Macsen]

Originally Posted by Judas Deceit

guess I will wait for mortal online.

Been reading up a bit on Mortal Online since you mentioned it... Wow... Now THAT game is nearly UO 2... At least on how they are planning skills and attributes.

[Judas Deceit]

1. cr0ss - why do you find it humorous that I am so disappointed.. I can't find the game you seem to find in every mmo you have hopped to and fro. I mean I leave a path of destruction in every game that has pvp it doesn't mean its fun. Are you so quick to abandon warhammer? I have waited and hammered this game on this forum and in private conversations to friends. Then its so empty on promises. Its like drinking a bud with no alcohol. Hell, I am curious as to how you think its a great game when its the same mmo as shadowbane. To be honest I don't think (at least in beta) stats play a role as much as they should. I like guilding and shit but I am more of a solo player. I would still love to see an mmo that releases a solo server no more than 2 to a group. 2 v 2 is still my all time favorite way to play a pvp mmo. Direct damage and support. But I digress. I am more pissed off than anything that its pay to beta. That's bullshit. Not even an open fucking beta which for an mmo is just shooting yourself in the foot. I am glad you have the ability and time to settle for mediocrity for pvp I want something that just delivers at least 80% on promises and darkfall is at about 40 I don't care about further down the line I care about now and it shouldn't had been released.
2. Ganthor - Nothing hotter than a woman who pvps. Unless shes ugly. Women add a nice spot of drama to a guild. Now I play to kill but I like killing women too. Too many dicks on the dance floor bro nuff said. I don't play to find an eharmony date I have no need I just like variety and women who murder.
3. Macsen - thats another point I wanted to point out is how Tasos always said this game was the spirtual successor to UO and how alot was to be borrowed and retooled. Other than drag and drop UI wtf does it resemble to UO? nothing not a bit. Mortal is on the early track to be something to watch, personally I find its graphics and early world preview to be more of what I want to play. So what else is left? Mortal Online is my last stop shop before I abandon the idea of MMO's all togetherm thank the stars for xbox live in the mean time. Hell I am busy with GTA lost and the damned and soon resident evil 5 I don't have time for games that mimic shadowbane's gameplay with the launch of AoC to draw me in and then inject fail into my heart

[cr0ss]

Originally Posted by Judas Deceit

1. cr0ss - why do you find it humorous that I am so disappointed.. I can't find the game you seem to find in every mmo you have hopped to and fro. I mean I leave a path of destruction in every game that has pvp it doesn't mean its fun. Are you so quick to abandon warhammer? I have waited and hammered this game on this forum and in private conversations to friends. Then its so empty on promises. Its like drinking a bud with no alcohol. Hell, I am curious as to how you think its a great game when its the same mmo as shadowbane. To be honest I don't think (at least in beta) stats play a role as much as they should. I like guilding and shit but I am more of a solo player. I would still love to see an mmo that releases a solo server no more than 2 to a group. 2 v 2 is still my all time favorite way to play a pvp mmo. Direct damage and support. But I digress. I am more pissed off than anything that its pay to beta. That's bullshit. Not even an open fucking beta which for an mmo is just shooting yourself in the foot. I am glad you have the ability and time to settle for mediocrity for pvp I want something that just delivers at least 80% on promises and darkfall is at about 40 I don't care about further down the line I care about now and it shouldn't had been released.

Well, as far as warhammer goes, it had delivered some neat things in the beginning of the game. Even mid game was great. But, toward the end game, it was still the same game. The same exact shit. Nothing changed at all.

It was a time sink, and I appreciated that at the time. It was definitely something to do. I got bored after about 2 months. I think I lasted that long just due to playing with friends.


As far as Darkfall is concerned, the game has its rough edges for sure. Animation was done by an amateur, no doubt about it. Like you said, it was probably done by their artist. They have a very small team, shit it took them 7 years to release this game. That's not an excuse, just more the reason why it is what it is.

I personally don't give a shit about graphics or the animations. Sure they could be better, but so long as it's not hindering my game play I don't care. The only problem I have with the game right now is it's in Europe and I ping like shit. Having things warp around when I'm chasing them down, or the opposite - when I'm running away -, is a huge annoyance. But I deal.

PvP is fun because it takes a good measure of skill. The fact I can run into a group of 3-4-5 people and STILL kill one of their guys/gank him before I die is testament to that.

What other game around lets you do that kind of shit?


Comparing this to Shadowbane a good call, except for the sb.exe errors. Or the lack of first person. Or lack of skill it took to play Shadowbane. You're looking for a reason to complain rather than a reason to play. Are you not having fun fighting against the odds?

Or are you just pissed because you didn't get a pre-order in before they shut ordering down? Release is pretty fucking smooth now, server has been up for 2 and a half days, going down for 2 hours at a time each day for patches and what not.

So tell me, what makes it like AoC? Like Shadowbane? Enlighten me, beta tester.